What a load of crap. BS. Spotify streams 320k Ogg files (if you're a subscriber -- it's 160k for freebies). There is NO audible quality loss between that and a CD. I guarantee that Neil could not tell the difference in a true double-blind test. The same would be true for one of his overhyped 24/192 files (providing the same original master was used). He's been peddling that 24/192 Pono BS for 2 years now. Nobody's really listening so he's trying this. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt (hey, he's Neil Young...) & say that he's delusional.
Bill Goldsmith
Radio Paradise
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Standing up for one's beliefs will never go out of style Bob.
But you will.
Streaming is fine, fast food is fine but so is ignoring it and so is not liking it.
I stream Tidal. It's the only one that sounds good. I could give a fuck that it's not as popular as Spotify.
Much of the music I like is unpopular. Who gives a fuck?
You do. You crave acceptance. You need to bask in the glow of what's popular and trending.
And you need to mock what's not. It makes you feel important.
You are often so perceptive and worthwhile to read. But then you go all "all that matters is what's popular and trendy"
..,and that's just so boring. Neil has always been great because he does as he pleases.
For a while that synched with popular tastes. Now it doesn't. Big deal. He still does as he pleases. Some of it is great and some of it sucks. So what?
At least he's not embarrassing himself by trying to be trendy.
Michael Fremer
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Bob,
1. Neil Young is a great artist.
Maybe that's why he gets a pass rightly or wrongly. I can live with that.
2. Streaming is IT! It's fabulous and here to stay, it's better than Napster and it killed piracy!!
3. Let's look at where the money goes. Major labels used to give you a distribution deal for 16 to 18% of the retail price of albums and singles. The real cost of distribution used to be around 8%. I would guess that the real cost of distribution in a digital world runs around 5% of retail value. Apple and the other download and streaming sites charge around 30%. That's a little rich and has to come down.
15 to 20% looks a lot more realistic.
4. Sony, Universal and Warners having ownership in streaming sites ( Spotify/ Tidal etc) is a conflict of interest similar to the Columbia house and Britannia ownership by labels before. Bob Marley"s estate sued Polygram for releasing Marleys music through Britannia in England and won. They were selling more than ten times as many albums through the "record club"as through regular channels paying Marley's estate a greatly reduced royalty on those sales. There is a great law suit to be had.
5. Merchandise and touring may pay a certain type of artist but certainly is not paying songwriters, musicians, arrangers and producers. All of them are indispensable parts of the musical Eco system.
6. I don't think that the price for streaming should be necessarily higher than it is, but the distribution of monies is wrong and grossly unfair. Daniel Elk should be making money as should all of those tech guys, but perhaps they are being paid a little bit too handsome and a little bit too early. How do their accomplishments stack up in comparison to those who build wonderful careers as artists, or as owners of smaller labels. It took the likes of Geffen, Blackwell, Alpert and Moss etc a lifetime to earn the wealth they walked away with.
Just sayin...
Best
Peter Koepke
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Bob,
Neil loses all credibility when he claims AM radio and 8-track tapes "kick streaming's ass." Who is he trying to fool? Anyone who has streamed -- and I am a Deezer subscriber who gets the HQ stream -- knows it's infinitely superior to AM. But I can't believe an artist who's so precious about his art would say 8-track is better than streaming. 8-track: a format on which albums would fade out mid-song when the program changed; a format on which running orders were jumbled to accommodate the format. (Have you ever seen the 8-track of Sgt. Pepper? Even the tracks on that milestone album are reordered with no concern about flow.) Fact is, an album as lazy as The Monsanto Years sounds crap regardless what format you play it on.
David Veitch
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Spot on
Anthony Vontz
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We're all old men, ranting in a darkened room. Nobody gives a shit what anyone over 40 thinks. Neil gets a pass because he's Neil. Still, as you point out, crickets are the only thanks he gets for his pronouncements. It's hard for us baby boomers to acknowledge, let alone accept, but we have to face facts. We don't matter.
Ray Staar
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Neil Young gets a "pass" because he wrote many, many great songs. More than most. He's an "artist".
Personally, I don't even love him that much because he sings out of tune half the time. But I recognize that he stands out amongst the masses. His songs continue to resonate far and wide.
I don't mind hearing his thoughts on the music business. Perhaps he's not as forward thinking as some. But he's definitely earned the right to have an opinion at least as equally valid as yours Bob.
Ari Posner
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FWIW, the Monsanto Years is probably the best album he's done since Greendale, though I doubt you care. Not that you should. But it's a decent record, exceeded expectations.
Galen Hudson
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Hi Bob,
For perspective.
Neil is a brilliant musician.
He's not a visionary.
Very few musicians see the future because they are so busy using their gifts to reflect and re-imagine the present. It's the story of most poets and most singers through history. The exceptions prove the rule.
Those who see the future (Da Vinci, Edison, Steve Jobs) are artists of a different kind.
John Parikhal
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"Why does Neil Young get a pass?"
Why not? He's done everything a real artist needs to do to guarantee his place in rock and roll history.
"So let's forget Neil Young."
Yes please! Let the man say whatever he wants. It's unseemly and kinda weird to go after Neil Young so vehemently. You've got lots of great things to say, don't worry about the icons…
"And whether you get paid for recordings or not, that's not where the lion's share of the money is. Most of the money is in touring and sponsorships"
Yes Bob that's true, but as I've written to you before, that truth buries the songwriter. Wish there was a way to get a great writer that is not an artist paid i.e. Brill Building, Motown…much of the great American Catalog!
appreciate your work,
Doug Kahan
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Funny enough - Neil is still on YouTube. His publisher and label won't take it down. Even talks with them today confirmed this is a lone gasp and not directive.
Please don't use my name if you decide to reprint.
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Why does Neil Young get a pass?
because he's neil young. plain and simple.......
Even better, what if you said you were gonna save the music business and no one cared?
then you'd be jay-z, madonna and jack white.....
Neil Young is just coasting on his past
if he were coasting i don't think he'd be stoked touring with the 'new' band behind his new record. say what you will - neil's out there pushing for what he believes whether it's railing against monsanto or promoting pono - he's OUT THERE DOING IT. gotta love that.
So let's forget Neil Young.
i wish you would. you complain about him as much as he complains about sound quality......
Denise Mello
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It's fine to embrace streaming -- but, Bob, EVERYONE WHO CREATES MUSIC DOES NOT WANT A "CAREER", touring and selling merch.
How can you get anyone interested in being a songwriter these days, when there is no money in it unless you're Max Martin? Not a singer-songwriter, not someone who only wants to bleed into the microphone, but a professional songwriter... Streaming has dried that profession up to near extinction already. Because of the absurd, insulting, criminally tiny amount paid for each play.
For many years I have waved the flag for the new world of music, arguing with my ever-complaining peers that it all needed to be embraced, telling everyone to stop bellyaching and get with it. Until, all at once, my songwriting income collapsed to under 5% of what it was.
I still try to keep a good outlook about it. But Spotify and Pandora and all them are thieving bastards who are getting seriously rich off the backs of the music creators. This is not complaining, this is simply talking facts. And this is not okay. And frequently you speak as if all this should make every musician dance with joy. There are a LOT of people on the other side of your computer whose lives have changed dramatically for the worse, and it has zero to do with them not being good or people not wanting to hear them.
Bob, my current ASCAP statement shows one song of mine, of which I own a full 50%, both writer's and publisher's shares. This song had 170,278 plays. For this, I was paid $3.12. This comes out to $0.00000183 per play. Oh, how valued I feel.
And then the people don't want to pay ten bucks a month for unlimited music. Fuck them, they don't deserve any music.
Rob Meurer
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Neil Young is playing live for 3hours 20 minutes.. no intermission.. No talking...
Just LIVE MUSIC with the Most kick ass band....
The Promise of the Real.
So u want to jump on the master
And push him around and tell people to forget him...
Man U talk out of both ends, brother.
Yet u give yahoos like U2
A pass??
U2 don't play 3:20...
They can't just go out there
On a stage and play without
All the syrupy support from technology.
Neil Young is completely REAL,
so is the band....
Wish our food was that real.
Nothing else out there compares.
And no automated lighting
12 American Union guys on the truss operating follow spots.
No other lights or video.
DRAMATIC..no video screens
No eye candy just music and
musicians.
He is putting America back to work.
Writing songs about our food culture which has poisoned our
citizens.
Not like all the tech guys u droll over
Who live in illusion....and slaughter
Our minds on a minute to minute basis.
Take a breath, my friend.
Marc Brickman
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Wow Bob...you ll never post this BUT if you are such a music man as you profess..highly doubt you did 55 shows in 65 days on a Prevost or Golden Eagle you ll never get it
Who gives a shit what Neil does because if you had any sense of music and songwriting you would acknowledge. He is one of the greatest songwriters ever....and any vet could care less what he does.
He a Neil Young and stop acting like a guy got your info from Passmans book of shit.....you re better than that man
Chris Apostle
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Not saying Pono is vastly better , since I've never heard it.
Cd quality streaming may be here , but it still cuts out frequencies , so I'm better Pono sounds better
But I'm not about to buy overprice player and music again.
casbag2000
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The Mark Levinson sound system in my car sounds stunning, with what little hearing I have left. Lol To argue against streaming both audio and video is like arguing against the merits of the wheel. I will check out the other two services that you just turn me on too to see if the sound quality is better. I love Spotify, but it just doesn't sound as good as I'm used to. This is a nice piece Bob, I'm glad I didn't overlook it in my Inbox. Thanks for teaching me about different things with your work.
Lavon Pagan
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Hey Bob, remember Prince announced the Internet was a fad?
Getting old is easy for no one rockstars even more so.
Keith Walker
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Neil Old.
Britt Benston
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Preach
Ed Harris
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One of your best in a while - you're so right here, the march of technology is inexorable and anyone who wasn't there for the old days doesn't give a shit.
Really enjoy your stuff.
- chris schultz
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Bob,
You don't get why Neil Young gets a pass? Honestly? You don't know that he got under Monsanto's skin and raised awareness about its dark side, even if there is an element of naïveté?
We don't care about how many records he sells, YOU do. I'm not such a big fan now, but he TRIES, and Pono was a factor, however small, in raising consciousness about the low quality and standards of music today. He could retire and play golf like what'shisname from Pink Floyd, but he cares and does his art. His album isn't great, but it at least sounds alive and there is clever writing and crafty musicianship there. He has already sold enough records!
One day you rant about how the values of your youth have gone to hell and the next day you vilify Neil Young of all people. You don't realize how you talk out of both sides of your mouth and how obvious it is?
Neil Young should be our worst enemy. If only...
Rob Wolfson
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Bob, dig your stuff. I would pay solid money to watch a video of Neil Young performing a double-blind ABX audio text of a 320 MP3 or 256 AAC file vs 24-Bit/96k Hi-Res file. There's some really great reliable, free and easy to use testers readily available. I recently did it at my studio in Nashville, and I was shocked to find out my results...
Schylar Shoates
Producer/Musician/Teacher
Gene Ford Music
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While listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Sweet Home Alabama' on Spotify, a friend's 10 year old son asked his father 'who is Neil Young?'
Adam Sieff
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Why slam Neil Young?
He's made some of the weirdest albums that are sonic experiences and CARES. We need that among the David Guettas and Ed Sheerans too. Let's keep something holy.
You're right, you have to stay in the game. It's good advice for up and coming artist, but if you can stay on your ranch, fuck Daryll Hanna and make music for your own pleasure more power to you.
If you're old man river and wrote Harvest Moon you can do whatever you want and that's what young people should aspire to: artistry. Not just working the system.
Jeff Bhasker
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Ever taken a risk Bob and put your bollocks on the table ? or just got paid off the back of others doing the gambling ??
This is an easy passage of critique because it seems to stem from a place of distance from the reality of the people who took chances and made the industry great - exciting,risky and dangerous ….who dared won (and i don't mean another round of funding taking it in the arse from finance)
Now its the bland chosen few,controlled by a twisted high school marginalised little prick who's out for revenge
Well they can have all the money in the world,but the skirt will still see them as a pay cheque and they'll know it,and it'll still eat them up however many zero's they have on the end of their name.
So tech won ….great
Lets see how that turns out
So far i see people getting ripped off and paedo's having a fucking ball
If you've ever put the house on black in the name of endeavour good luck to you …..if not - you've got nothing
Nick Hanson
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Hi Bob,
There was a blog posted about a study published by the Journal of the Audio Engineering Society and they asked the question, what bitrate is needed to sound like analog FM? The short answer they gave was 300 kbp/s or greater. They said, "in less critical listening environments, bit rates of 160-192 kbp/s will work." I am in Australia and I have a Premium Spotify account which allows me to stream at 320 kbp/s on my mobile. Spotify calls it "Extreme Quality." I'm not sure but I think it's fairly new. I only noticed it appear as an option in the last few months. So effectively, whilst it's not CD quality, I can stream Spotify through my car speakers and to my ears and according to the experts, it sounds like FM radio. If that's the case, Neil should promptly request that all his music be removed from all radio stations as they are equivalent to streaming quality. Apparently AM stations are even worse at around 128 kbp/s or less so he should maybe start with them. Or maybe Neil needs to
pay for a Premium Spotify account.
The blog about the study: http://www.engineeringradio.us/blog/2013/11/what-bitrate-is-needed-to-sound-like-analog-fm/
PS - I love your emails and Neil Young too.
PPS - You turned me onto Spotify but I still buy some CDs.
PPPS - I prefer pre mastered recordings through my studio monitors - I hope that maybe one day streaming will be of that quality, but I'm not complaining for now.
Best regards,
Victor Stranges
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Bob:
I have been a huge Neil Young fan since I heard Sugar Mountain at sleep away camp on the late 70s (born in '66) but he has gone off his rocker lately. Everything you say below is exactly what I was thinking. I mean he released his music on 8-track I am sure and cassette as well. All I know is that open my Spotify or (Apple) app and I blue tooth to my car system and it sounds really great. This is the greatest time in rock history for access to discover new bands because of the ability to listen on demand without having to drop $15 on a new CD that has 1 good song. I just can't understand that he would have a problem with the quality. Also, going to "crowd funding" to raise money for a private business, WTF. I really could not understand that whole thing. Plus the product is a joke. I have yet to meet one person who uses it. After I read that he was taking off, I checked my Spotify and he was not off yet, so I teed up Cortex the Killer one last time.
Hal J Cohen
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I have loved Neil forever. He was the man. I actually like his new release and I haven't liked anything since Ragged Glory. I bought all his shit and so much of it was shit but... He followed his muse. Now he is old, and his silo of hangers on tells him that he is brilliant... and he is pretty much meaningless and sometimes silly. RIP Neil.
Michael A. Becker
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Streaming sucks...it's like renting.....who seriously listens to music on their PHONE????
Ownership is and always will be the way to have the full experience......
In my genre (dance) vinyl is still being released.
I can invite my friends over to my crib to listen and see what new records I have....
The experience.....
I'm not gonna connect my phone to my sound system to listen to music....
Spotify, YouTube, Soundcloud, etc. are good to find out what's out, to see what you are gonna own next...
All the music I listen to takes months to get on streaming services......
You think I'm gonna pay to rent music?????
And then when the internet is down (which happens sometimes) I have to skip, or rely on what is on my phone?????
No way.......
Streaming sucks......period.
Jay Negron
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a-fucking-men.
to use one of your favorite words, Bob, lately its been members of the "professional music press" that I've seen BLOVIATING about their oh-so-unfair lot in life, and latching onto their infallible idols whose legend-building once lined their pockets, as if, together, they can turn the tide of the new generation that refuses to fall their same old line of bullshit.
Ed Rivadavia
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Streaming is a concept by which we measure our pay/play.
I don't believe in Spotify.
I don't believe in Pandora.
I just believe in me, Pono and me,
and that's reality.
The stream is over.
Harold Lepidus
Bob Dylan Examiner
Performing Arts Examiner
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I like Neil Young. I like his music, I like his one man, change an industry ethos, and the fact that he tries new things - WITH A PASSION. Obvs he doesn't always get it right, nor does Apple.
Now I've got that off my chest you raise some very good points in your latest post, which don't seem to get much air time:
1. I'm based in the UK - we're used to paying more for everything American as nobody can quite get their heads round a GLOBAL economy yet so there's a US price then plus plus for the rest of the world. That will change one day, but by God we've waited a long time. $9.99 in the US, £9.99 here, but we pay.
2. Hi Res streaming - All of the above applies, but what I really don't see debated is music versus cinema. I can rent Netfix for £6.99, but Spotify is £9.99. What is the rationale for this? If streaming works at £6.99 for visual media it should work for music at LESS, not more. I entirely agree with paying a premium for higher res - same as Blu-Ray v DVD, but why oh why is music so much more expensive than video?
3. You're right, streaming is the current go to for music - but do you know what - lots of people like me, probably old, of course, will then buy a CD, use it as free backup, but add it to my media streamer. That's right I use Spotify like I used to listen to the radio, and probably listen to much more new music today, than I have in the last 20 years.
Someone must have the numbers for video/movie streaming versus music - but you never see them quoted. And showing a film in the cinema is the equivalent of a live music show, so there is a comparison.
I love your newsletter, introduced to me by a US musician, but please lighten up on Neil!!
PS - My limited edition PONO is gathering dust, but I love it, and of course so are lots of other obsolete pieces of tech that just last for days until they're superceded.
Philip Haines
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The best news for streaming isn't apple music; it's yesterday's Wall Street Journal piece on Sonos and a host of new competitors that make using streaming music over speakers vs headphones, a lot easier and better. Music still needs to be visceral, which in general it isn't on earbuds, but affordable good sounding speakers you can operate without a physics degree and a spare teen-ager, are what's really going to change things that and the trend towards cheaper data services.
Joe Pinder
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Bob,
I don't listen to Neil Young and I don't own a Pono, but I do think there is merit in edge case people pursuing edge case goals. Their failures (and occasional successes) inform the rest of us.
Regards,
Josh Karp
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I agree that Neil is severely out of touch re: music delivery in the modern age. Your comments on Pono, iTunes, and YouTube are spot on, unassailable, patently obvious unless one's head is buried in the sand On The Beach.
But forget Neil Young? Never. He has been a paragon of transparency, humanity, fallibility, and anti-market anti-commercial integrity, literally NOT putting corporate money where his mouth is, for his entire career. The art that the record labels and journalists crapped all over in the Seventies stands as some of the highest achievement of the form. I shudder to imagine a world without Tonight's the Night.
And the new records are good too. If you don't like the Psychedelic Pill record from a couple years ago, you were never a Neil fan to begin with.
This note's for you, if you care to listen. Don't confuse your not caring with his not delivering.
Patrick Daly
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I knew he was full of shit when he said both AM radio and 8-track cassettes had better sound quality than streaming. What streaming service is he listening too?
Richard Wells
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Bob,
I agree with just about everything you say here. About streaming, the old ways of getting paid being irrelevant. Dead right.
But I do with there was a higher fidelity personal music player around that didn't cost a mint. You know, something that, unlike ipod, actually sounded significantly better than am radio, but costs less than Astell & Kern, or even Pono, that I could take to the gym. Oh, and something that didn't break every year the way ipods do -- what a crappy way to try to squeeze more "upgrade" money from customers. Maybe I am pipe dreaming here? So 1/2 a cheer for Neil for at least trying with Pono.
But no audiophile is going to use Pono -- or even A&K -- as a primary music source in a listening room (I know, listening rooms are for music freaks and dinosaurs, everyone else listens to third rate audio quality on mobile, but we dinosaurs have a right to live too, at least some of the time!). My old pair of Apogee Acoustics electrostatic speakers that I bought on closeout, are STILL hard to beat, 20 years on... and most of the music sources coming out now are so much worse that my ears want to throw up.
I get that if you want to make it as an artist you have to make lots of people care. But there still exist some of us, who, when we like what we hear, would actually like to hear the art. Who want to sit in it, swim in it, sink in it.
Jonathan Bernstein
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Great response, Bob, as I knew it would be.
Every new music format has been about convenience and access. Quality is vital, but not as vital (to the listener) as the song itself.
I'm a classically trained pianist and have always been surrounded by musicians and composers, and so I appreciate sound quality and I appreciate music production. I do believe that music lovers and music-makers want both access and quality, not always or necessarily at the same time... and that's okay. Hasn't it always been about how we experience music, which is recorded music most of the time?
I listen to vinyl records at home for a different experience. I love how they look, sound and feel. I'm also a Spotify Premium subscriber. I find no conflict. Streaming is inextricable from my life. Now, if we were still in the era of swooshy, low-quality Napster MP3s that took hours to burn onto a CD, I might see Mr Young's point.
But he's making an argument from affluence, and it sure doesn't resonate.
Jennifer Carney
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Thank god for people like Neil !
Derek Petrillo
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Hey Bob- I'm with you. You gotta stay with the times or just go back to your ranch and make music for the fun of it. I don't even use streaming services, unless I'm specifically researching a song, nor do I listen to CDs. For me it's cassettes and vinyl. I'm not saying it sounds good or better. I just like it. I routinely distribute my music on CD, vinyl and streaming. Those are today's choices.
I love Neil, he's pretty much my favorite non-country old timer. I love that he has always been sketchy. It proves he's pushing his own formulas and limits. That's studly.
One more thing. You misquoted his song.
Best-
Tim Bluhm
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Dear Bob:
As usual you are "on the money," "You want to make money on streaming music? Stay independent, don't sign to a label." So simple - - - and tour, tour, tour. Basements, living rooms, small clubs, anywhere two or more people will listen and then talk about your music. In the "old days" I bought an album and invited friends over to listen. Today "stream" and head phones. However it the artist comes to town, then I can get my friends together and share the experience!
Rock & Roll.
Bud Becker
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The one thing about streaming anything, wether it be music, movies or videos is it
DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK.
Its not a seamless process because the bandwith in this country is so limited due to the providers who want you to struggle with connectivity so as they roll out the next bigger better option, they hit you for higher fees.
Try streaming in lower Manhattan, the mountain regions of Vermont or the Poconos in Pa.
It barely works in a lot of these places & Im sure there is a list of NO Fly Zones for data everywhere.
Truly immersive music listeners experience physical & emotional pain when their music pauses, skips or hangs in the lost data zone of perpetual buffering.
It disrupts the experience & I end up bouncing to some horrible terrestrial station playing the same 20 or so acts/songs they have had on their playlist since 1977.
Remember when we held our Albums like a cherished porcelain doll, only on the edges, careful not to smudge or scratch the pristine vinyl with our grubby paws?
This was to prevent the unacceptable disruption of skipping or getting lodged in a scratch which led to the redundant skip, over & over & over.
This is the same experience, more often than not, of streaming music currently.
will it improve? Sure, like anything else it will get better.
For now connectivity is a huge issue with streaming.
I know these factors are irrelevant to the masses, sales & the almighty numbers.
I think Neil Young & a lot of your readers would get the frustration many of us have with the
imperfections of the streaming revolution.
Joe Naz/Allshows.com NYC
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To be fair: he said it wasn't about the money. It's about sound quality.
Sure, his action doubles as a Pono plug, but at least the guy is on record about this issue.
But I'm in 100% agreement with you about the media's fawning treatment of Neil Young. The guy has many masterpieces to his name, but they're well in the past. He's earned our attention and respect, but that doesn't give him a pass for life.
Maybe one day streaming will pay better. Maybe one day it'll sound better. These seem like fights worth having. But when you've already got a horse in the game (don't forget the Pono store), it's a lot harder to take you seriously. At least Taylor Swift could be perceived as genuinely sticking up for the little guy in her dispute with Apple.
Andrew Parker
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"But let's admit that streaming is here to stay."
ABSOLUTELY!
"So let's forget Neil Young."
WHAT? YOU CAN'T DE SERIOUS!?! This part of your rant sounds personal Bob...or it's time to cut back to decaf...
-doug trantow
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hi Bob
I think you miss his point. It is about sound. Yes Neil is not happy with the direction of the future of music cause the sound quality of streaming music sucks big time. And i know some will say the bit rate is equivalent to blah de blah and superior to cd or fm signal - really try driving in the bay area or the sierras Sound quality is diminished by spotty signal strength muting the sound to a a thin and weak remnant. The music business is leaving quality behind to focus on trying to find a way to make money again via streaming to limit piracy but the cost to those who want good sound is steep. some people still want to own not rent. I may be a luddite but my yesterday when i dropped Oh yeah by yello on my turntable my kids literally froze in their tracks and stopped to listen and said the sound was so full and rich i can hear each instrument. Good luck hearing placement with streaming. This may be the new paradigm, however i am not pleased with this it creates a reality where if
one day the cloud is not accessible or if you miss a payment to spotify or apple - you will lose your access to music - perhaps your entire collection.
Chris
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You are once again coming off as such a major asshole.
You're brick wall with a mouth spouting misinformation that overlooks a huge number of struggling talented musicians artists and songwriters who cannot find any support to develop because others are keeping more than their fair percentage of the money that work of these creators generates.
I've given up expecting you to care to understand the truth of what is happening. I just wish you'd go away and stop making things worse.
Statements like this below are so ignorant. Find another hobby Bob. Or find out that you don't know what you're talking about.
Beth Nielsen Chapman
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