Emilio Castillo is the only person who's been in every iteration of Tower of Power. It was a joy talking to Emilio, hearing how he formed the band, their various record deals, rehab, marriage, Bill Graham, Ted Templeman... Even if you think you're not interested in TOP you will love Emilio's stories, learning how he went from there to here.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-the-bob-lefsetz-podcast-30806836/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/emilio-castillo/id1316200737?i=1000466842722
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3mDEH2OCWzjXQP3kYlvdAC
https://www.stitcher.com/s?eid=67641043
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