Adam Libman
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Two big universities in Canada just initiated mandatory vaccination for staff faculty and students. FLA lost the case against cruise ships mandating vaccinated people only.
Jake Gold
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Stick to music. You're misinformed Bobby.
Davide Ficociello
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They do.
Watch your readers respond with "fuck vaccines, you're a moron, Bob!"
Fuckin' selfish-ass morons in this country................................
Christina Applegate gets MS, but Trump still walks around eating "hamberders", raping women, like Kavanaugh and Gaetz with teenage girls.
Awesome, ain't it?
themelodies
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I love Jason Isbell what he's doing and I hope it works as a deterrent to keep the unvaccinated at home but in my experience the venues are really half assing it. I just went to two of his three shows in Austin and they only gave a cursory glance at your vax card. 50 people in a row could've shown them the same image on their phones and they wouldn't know it. And I'd say a good half of the people inside were ignoring the request to wear masks… the venue wasn't even requiring it of their own staff. I didn't see a single bartender wearing a mask. That seemed pretty shitty of them to be honest.
You 're dead on though, it would be cool to see more artists have the spine that Jason has.
Jeff Neely
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Are we talking the Trump or the Biden vaccine? I've heard one is good while the other is bad.
Paul Babb
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Bet you won't see a Lollapalooza-like headline coming out of Sturgis, SD in the next few weeks.
Dave Svikhart
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I agree with you and I am double vaccinated too.
My question is, with people selling "fake" vaccination cards for upwards of $200 or more, how will these promoters do anything but look at possibly a fake card and let non vaccinated people walk right in when they show their "card"?
Curious
Jon Scott
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Since so many of the unvaccinated are on the Right, let's speak to them in their own language:
A) They can't possibly be Patriots because they either trust something that escaped from a Chinese lab, or something that grew inside a Chinese bat (pick your conspiracy theory) over a US-made vaccine
B) They are allowing the US to turn into a welfare state as so many now rely on Big Government to pay us unemployment…because they're destroying our economy and we're all losing our jobs
C) They are supporting Socialized Medicine… the dreaded Big Government is paying the difference between what their insurance (if they have it) will cover and what the hospital bills total AND Big Government is paying up to $7k towards funeral expenses for those who die of COVID.
So, to sum it up (in their terms), they are Chinese-loving Socialist Welfare Queens hell-bent on destroying the US economy
Jesse Lundy
Point Entertainment
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I don't remember the Feds being wimpy about seatbelts or allowing individual states the right to comply or not. C'mon Biden, Man up!
George Johns.
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What's the one segment of the concert experience NOT listed in the AEG vaccine policy?
ARTISTS - they're either afraid to confront the acts, or don't want to cancel shows on tours where the performers are adamant anti-vax - and they have a few.
So, it's okay if the fully vaxxed stagehands get COVID from the guitar player.................
Steven L
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This has fast become BIGGOT corner. Absolutely no reason to vaccinate against a virus with a mortality rate of less than 1%
WHO, Fauci, (funny how when I type fauci's name it's underlined but not offering a correction?) WTF, Gates, fucking serious?
This new variant?
Gates warned us of the potential for an out break?
Of course he did he was working on a synthetic vaccination which was illegal micro biology research for a very good reason, it was dangerous.
Wikipedia has since re- defined vaccination, the PCR machine was NEVER designed to detect a virus as explicitly stated by it's inventor and NOBEL laureate, Kerry Mullis.
Death certificates are now regulated to reinterpret cause of death.
No one in their right mind would trust government policy over their own logic, if they had any.
Most people follow, as far back as Plato, Socrates.
I cannot believe what I have been reading from this miss informed group of conformists.
Grow some strength, probably too late.
All of your "wisdom" will lead us directly into the slaughterhouse, as if we haven't enough history to shine the light on such perverse illogic.
Al Oliver
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My list of bands willing to die to see.
1)
2)
3)
Let's be honest, as you get older, you get pickier. I want decent sightlines, enough clean washrooms, no yahoos screaming beside me, sitting more than standing for the show, and above all, to be safe.
Hate to admit it, but Vegas residencies tick more boxes than pretty much anywhere else.
Peter Burnside
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ABOUT F@*^#ING TIME! Every decision has consequences, no vaccine, no show, stay home! My industry of artists/managers/agents/promoters/music venues/touring staff etc.. has been financially decimated over the last 18 months and we are finally speaking up. At one time artists used to effectuate change, maybe the tide is finally changing.
There is a huge class of working professional tour personnel that have been home trying to pay their mortgage and feed their families and a simple safe, effective and FREE vaccine would put all those people back to work. That does not include everyone that works in the venues and arenas, these are not wealthy people, just hard working people who love the arts and do their best to make sure that the same selfish people who are not vaccinated have an enjoyable experience seeing their favorite artists.
NO VACCINE, NO MUSIC, STAY HOME! Impossible to argue with stupid!
Regards,
Scott
Scott Welch Management
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"Take away people's shows. Let them kick and cry. But then they'll comply."
THIS. 100%
Want to join us cool kids that get to go to the show? Get the damn shot. It's FREE.
I'm done respecting their choice.
Sarah Martin
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Lol Bob,
In Florida we are not "breaking records." The CDC had to revise downward their numbers by a third.
You are Fake News.
Thomas Kenny
Vero Beach, FL
Note: From the "Palm Beach Post": "Cases, hospitalizations, kids: Florida still setting COVID records - COVID in Florida updates"
"Florida sets COVID hospitalization records again, including highest in nation for children
Florida ranks number one nationally in both total weekly cases and deaths, representing 22% and 25% of the national total, respectively, according to Johns Hopkins University's COVID-19 update Tuesday.
Florida is also leading the nation in per capita weekly cases with 733 new cases per 100,000 population, 3.5 times the national average of 205, according to Johns Hopkins.
Florida has the worst rate of COVID-19 hospitalizations for inpatient beds, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the only state with 25% or more inpatient beds assigned to COVID patients. Florida also has the highest hospitalization rates for children up to 19, according to the CovKid Project."
https://bit.ly/3fWSQu4
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Prosecute them criminally?
Heck why don't we just ship these flagrant little weasels away on the trains. You'd love that, I'm sure.
Ryan Hartigan
Note: "Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the authority of states to enforce compulsory vaccination laws. The Court's decision articulated the view that individual liberty is not absolute and is subject to the police power of the state.": https://bit.ly/3yP55k8
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I'm sorry but if you are not aware that every kid under 18 year old either has a fake vaccine card, or fake negative result card, then you didn't live through the 70s and 80s (and even today) when every kid had a fake ID.
It's a cottage industry.
Get with the times man (in the voice of Cheech)
Scott London
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I wonder if the vaccination requirement extends to sporting events as well. That would mean Staples, Chase Center up north and so forth. I could see that moving the needle for some in terms of needing to be vaxxed to go to a sporting event.
Paul Kersh
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Agree completely that patience is wearing thin with the anti-vaccers. Local school jurisdictions in Texas and Florida are openly defying their governors as are the doctors who must live with the consequences of those governors' fatally flawed political posturing.
Also agree it will be a long time before this older citizen attends any fully seated venue be it a Broadway theater or the local venues that sponsor speakers and concerts. The risk is simply not worth it even being fully vaccinated and wearing a mask.
George Laugelli
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Fuck the un-vaccinated! No
Vax. No access. Anywhere.
Mike Donahue
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Thanks again for this, but I'm confused. Over the last year and a half, we've been told covid symptoms can show up after a 14 day period (hence the 14 day quarantine rules). Therefore, isn't it pre-mature to make this announcement until after the 14 day mark? Since the last day of Lollapalooza was August 1st, shouldn't we be waiting until August 15th? I don't mean to be a pessimist, and praying it wasn't a superspreader event but I want to see what happens after the 14 day mark, and I still think if we want to play it super super safe, it might be helpful if everyone did a negative covid test before the events. I don't know.
Amy Rivard
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Did you see Dead & Co. just announced vax/test tour requirements (for most shows anyway with additional details to follow)?...Kudos to them for doing so in advance, unlike other big names who shall remain nameless!?!?!
Doug Collette
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Bob, you've got it wrong about Texas and Florida.
Those guys are both playing to run in 2024 either on the VP ticket with Trump or instead of him. They are playing to the rest of America, to the Trump fans.
They don't give a damn about what happens other than that. It's not just their ignorant subjects. They figure that everyone will forget the deaths and suffering by 2024. And, knowing the American people, they will.
John Parikhal
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMRJHH4W2/
Thank you for your letters. Thought you would appreciate the above. Similar to what Schwarzenegger is saying.
Kevin Keegan
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We need to change terminology. We need to stop saying "breakthrough" because the vaccines work and they work really well and they work the way they were designed. The breakthrough term insinuates the vaccines don't work and they increase hesitancy and resistance to getting people to take the shot.
It's not breaking through your defences. Was Never intended to prevent infection. Intent is to prevent severe illness and death. And it sure as hell is doing that. It's goal is To train your body how to fight the infection and reduce your sickness.
Did you read the info about viral load being just as high in vaxed people as unvaxed? I bet you did. But did you know that that viral load decreases much faster in those with the shot than those without? Meaning you're contagious for less time, meaning you spread it less, meaning get a fucking shot. You'll most likely stay out of the hospital, most likely stay alive, and most likely spread less disease.
The CNN article today is good reading.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/health/breakthrough-infection-covid-vaccine-misleading/index.html
Ian Heath
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Everyone needs to leave everyone alone on both sides. If you have a vaccine, mind your own business; if you don't and you live or die, it's your choice. "My Body My Choice". Isn't that the phrase or is that just an interchangeable, option when convenient? If you have the vaccine why are you worried or doesn't it work? it does get confusing?. I just heard a booster is needed? So wasn't it ready when we got these shots? Is anyone curious? Maybe that's why it's only approved under the emergency status? The Drummer in Offspring can't tour because of the band he has a pre-existing condition. Seems the risk is on the drummer. He has Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS) CDC says don't get the vaccine if you have this issue. Pathetic. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/underlying-conditions.html?s_cid=11413:who%20should%20not%20get%20covid%20vaccine:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21.
Thank you for not printing my name. To many hostile Browns shirts coming to life. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
Note: I would not print this anonymous email if not for the fact that the article he links to says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!
"Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS)
People who have previously had GBS may receive a COVID-19 vaccine. To date, no cases of GBS have been reported following vaccination in participants in the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials. One case of GBS was reported in a vaccinated participant in the Johnson & Johnson Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine clinical trial (compared to one GBS case among those who received placebo). With few exceptions, the independent Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) general best practice guidelines for immunization do not include a history of GBS as a precaution to vaccination with other vaccines."
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The one thing people like you will not address is why they asked to have no protections for vaccine injury
Think about that
You get your laser focused pen and tear apart an artist - but big Pharma makes billions and can't set aside cash for injury
Listening to you blather on is no different then listening to righties on their moral high ground on all their issues
Same bull shit
You can't hear the argument and you can't understand it
People
Get injured - if you don't know this to be true you are a fool
The numbers don't matter
It's the fact that we don't help them at all
They changed that with this vaccine
My dads best friend got Gillian barre' directly after vaccine - it has not gone away others have had to leave jobs and we don't take care of their families
This should be a no-brainer to take care of them
If we did - hesitancy would not be this high
This is fact
Billy Zero
Dj Boy
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They have no idea how many of the concert goers were vaccinated. It was an estimate. I would love to know how they arrived at that number when younger folks, who are concert goers, have the lowest vaccination level.
MLB games in cities that do not require proof of vaccines are not super spreader events either. How is that happening? Divine intervention?
Last, Arnold is irrelevant. We are stuck at a 50/50 impasse.
The CDC and Emperor Fauci has lost credibility with one half of our country because of their inept and inconsistent messaging. We don't trust them.
Dennis Paulik
Note: I can find no follow-up study re infection rates after the Nashville event. If one was done, the results have not been publicly published.
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Again, not a word about the 1.5 million covid recovered (according to CDC numbers) who have natural immunity. Cleveland Clinic study found no benefit in the vax for the covid recovered, only potential risk of an adverse event. Israeli study showed the vax'd had 6x the reinfection rate of the unvax'd covid recovered. Any calculation or estimate of population immunity that doesn't factor in a group that comprises nearly half the country is intellectually dishonest.
Michael Gregory
Note: "A new reportTrusted Source from the U.S. Centers for the Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) states that those who do not get vaccinated after the illness are nearly two and half times more likely to develop COVID-19 again.
The latest research reaches the opposite conclusion of a pre-print study the Cleveland Clinic released in July.": https://bit.ly/2VIyVId
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Don't you claim to be rational & logical guy? There is NO logic or rational in vaccine requirements without ALSO recognizing natural immunity acquired from infection and recovery.
The push to discount and ignore natural immunity (which is proving to be better than vaccine induced antibodies) is illogical and unscientific. People with natural antibodies should be treated no different from people with vaccine created antibodies. It is as discriminatory as is race discrimination.
Thanks,
Kurt
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Thanks for writing this. And the link to "Vaccine Refusers Risk Compassion Fatigue". Why should they risk their lives and their families when the non vaccinated imbeciles are transmission lines. Joel Sill
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Nonsense, Eric Clapton is God and Eric and Van say otherwise.
Rollyourbones
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1. Can't legislate against stupidity
2. Check out the staggering growth in the market for fake vax proof
3.that horse has already left the barn
4. The anti vaxxers are not restricted to a geographical area, a political persuasion, an age group cohort, or a gender based thought
5. The sick unvaxxed are taking up hospital beds, emergency room space causing a stop to hospital visitations and to non emergency surgery and using a disproportionate amount of resources
6. Any focus on masks is a diversion and also besides the point
7. Peer pressure, shame pressure, ostracism and physical quarantine
David Kessler
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This could not have come at a more apropos time. Orange County venues (Segerstrom, Soka Performing Arts Center, Musco Center, the Irvine Barclay) are having this tough discussion as we speak, and we plan on coming out with a unified policy on vaccine requirements and masking for our venues. My position here at Soka Performing Arts Center is that all patrons and artists be required to show proof of vaccine or negative COVID test within 48 hours, and remain masked indoors. It is an absolute necessity.
Yes, the reasons to require vaccinations for entry are vast. We can all name them. Yes, major venues across the nation are joining the vaccine proof for entry, including Broadway. Major artists also have announced that they will not play venues where there is not a vaccine requirement for entry, and more are following suit daily. We have donors who are requiring it for the concerts they sponsor.
But beyond all that, it is simply the right thing to do. Vaccine compliance is the one thing that will ultimately get our country back on the right path (greater than 90% vaccinated), and is a primary way to help our global world right now.
There were two words in your email that struck me the most. "Just lead". You are 100% correct. It is up to us, the venue directors, to LEAD, and not be afraid or wishy washy or wait to see what others are going to do. Do the right thing. No excuses, no polls. Just lead.
Thank you, Bob!
Renee Bodie
General Manager, Soka Performing Arts Center
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I have no problem with Vaxx's BUT I DO have a problem with the government forcing me to put something in my body
Michael K. Clifford
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More of this. Since logic, reason, and deference to doctors and other experts are apparently in short supply, the next logical step is making the price of refusing the vaccine higher and higher every day.
Brian Pearl
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As I type this reply to you I've just been informed that Orleans Parish will be implementing a proof of vaccine/proof of negative test mandate this coming Monday. A number of bars and restaurants implemented this policy weeks ago, as did a few venerable music venues--Tipitina's, Maple Leaf Bar, and d.b.a.--and I've heard little outrage as of yet. Some owners of the businesses affected by this mandate--namely bars and restaurants--do have a valid issue with their small business potentially losing business while the Superdome, for example, will most likely not have the same mandate for the upcoming Saints season. The NFL could certainly use its profile to provide proper information and encourage people to get vaccinated, but recent history has shown that Roger Goodell rarely stands on the side of right (well, other than the alt-right).
Any of us with a little sense expected Jazz Fest to be canceled, and of course we're bummed. But it was the ballsy decision that needed to be made for the greater good, and I wish more organizations with a massive platform would grow a pair and make the good decisions. Tucker Carlson, that slavering mouth breather, uses his platform every single goddamn day to spread misinformation, while organizations, performers, and athletes with a platform equally as big do nothing.
As far as Isbell goes, he's smart as hell and not afraid to go toe-to-toe with foolish commentary and do god's work. And in so many ways he's been converting the naysayers for years--maybe even you.
Todd Shelton
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It's amazing to me that with all of your music business experience, you see all of the manipulation, corruption and other BS in the music industry, but you are willfully blind to the same corruption and misinformation from Pharma and our complicit government and media. I have a lot of respect for you, but you should stick to what you know. We will regret vaccine passports.
Fred Fabro
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I had breakfast today with a buddy who's a Live Nation touring rep. He's starting a tour in a few days with a solid-selling artist, and he fully expects the tour to be shut down by late September.
Because … people are stupid.
Bob Davis
Retired Tour Accountant
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Myocardial Infarction is REAL from these vaccines, Bob. Blood clots, organ inflammation and embolism.
But by all means, keep those blinders on, call them all kooks, dismiss all medical evidence from this UNapproved experimental substance, and keep screaming in the streets that they are "safe," as if you know.
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/pilot-condemns-united-airlines-for-mandating-experimental-injection/
wireless11
Note: From Wikipedia: America's Frontline Doctors is an American right-wing political organization known for spreading misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic.
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It's happening here in Canada with my own province Nova Scotia saying they will soon enact a vaccine passport to get into non-essential places. Quebec is doing it starting 1 September and I think many provinces will follow suit. I think the government is also working, with the willing provinces, on a nationwide vaccine passport as well. We opened our borders to the US this week but only to the fully vaccinated and you have to show proof.
I think as things open up and the unvaccinated can't go to bars, restaurants, concerts and various recreational spots, I think you'll see more get vaccinated. The hard core anti-vaxxers will probably head for the hills!!
Doug Gillis
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Good points on getting people to take the vaccine. It's great to see Jason Isbell taking a stand. I was on the fence about making a 2 hour drive to Richmond to catch his show in September, but after seeing his engagement on Twitter I bought tickets. I want to support what he's doing.
Pat Byrne
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Stop with the insults! Why do liberals think they can just insult people into doing something! The media and you have been wrong on Florida since the beginning.. we get it you are afraid DeSantis can win.. Look up state by state vax rates… if the media was to be believed you would expect to see Florida ranked near bottom…. But reality?? #24… doubtful CNN or MSDNC would report that! I have a family friend who lives in the UAE where you either are vaccinated or under house arrest by order of the king.. and the Delta variant has been there getting people sick since April! In a country where vax rate is near 100%. So hmm.. maybe not demonizing the unvaccinated , or those that think the mask might make u feel safer but in reality do very little (just ask Biden's old Covid advisor… CNN John King Show) Yes, I took the vaccine and believe it can keep you from dying and hopefully more will come to that realization.. But, insulting them and acting superior as you always tend to do, but I seriously doubt you would do face to face is not the best approach here! Maybe you should put as much effort into demanding your party in charge find out who the jackwagon scientists where that developed this crap in the Wuhan lab??? Paging Dr. Fauci!
Jim Ryan
Note: Yes, he is correct that Florida is #24 in vax rates, not that its rate is admirable. Florida is vaccinated at a 49.84% rate. #1 is Vermont at 68.3%. New Jersey, #7, has a 59.26 rate. Bottom line, it's not simple. It has to do with unvaxxed concentrations. A state, like California, can have a high rate in the cities, but low in the country. Also, masks laws can ameliorate infections. So pure vax rate is not the definitive statement he says it is.
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"Yes, the state refuses to keep you safe."
Worse: the state prohibits others from keeping you safe.
Hyperbolium
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203 people to date linked to the event with COVID.
Sounds like a lot to me.
Would you go Bob?
p.stocks
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